The Manosphere? The Manosphere!

100% of men will try to have sex with 100% of the women they are sexually attracted to, to the best of their ability. That’s where The Manosphere comes in. It’s a scary, hilarious place.

Note: The Manosphere (the entire movement, not to be confused with the web page) in general is mainly made up of angry, angry White, middle-aged men who are disproportionally unhappy with their lives, to begin with. Some through their own actions, some through not being taught Correct Action by a strong father, or suitable mentor, because there is no substitute for a father. Correct Action being the set of behaviors that get you what you want in life.

These are often men who made poor choices with women, lost businesses/went bankrupt, were taken advantage of by their ex-wives and an unfair court system, don’t exercise and/or are victims of their own poor eating habits. I touched on eating when I talked about Being Yourself. Still, some who give advice offer field-tested wisdom that the men who frequent the site(s) can use.  

I stumbled onto the (now defunct) VivaLaManosphere (this site does not represent the entire movement), run by KidStrangeLove when a friend sent me to BoldAndDetermined.com, run by Victor Pride and DangerAndPlay.com, run by Mike Cernovich. I’m big on developing myself, setting goals, pillaging my opposition, and building my thrones on the skulls of my enemies. So my buddy thought I’d get a kick out of those two, I do. I watched, and commented on a few threads they run as well. What I found out is that they represent the fringe element of The Manosphere.

A man named Jake routinely reposts my writings at http://www.Manosphere.com and I am glad to be thought well of by his readers. More than a few have emailed me and talked with me in-depth about what I write. Keep in mind, I don’t write for his audience or The Manosphere, but I recognize the overlap.

I’ve reconciled that I am a part of The Manosphere, the fringe part. When I say “fringe” it’s not that the ideas I promote are detrimental. Most of The Manosphere does not promote the hard, life-altering actions it takes to make it in life, and with women. They promote using falsehoods and less than ethical shortcuts that don’t work out for the long term. Specifically exercising the body, mind, and spirit are long term, never ending projects that yield consistent, replicable, verifiable results.

  • I define results as being a Man that other Men like to do business with and make money with.
  • I define results as being a Man that Women desire.

On the other hand, a big chunk of the men reading The Manosphere and all of its associated parts are only looking for enough info to find quick and easy sex, and there is nothing wrong with that either. Many of the tactics they use are undeniably effective.

Brazilian CondomAs I said, “100% of men will try to have sex with 100% of the women they are sexually attracted to, to the best of their ability.” Where things become unequal is when we realize that not all men have the same ability because they lack the tools. The Manosphere makes a good try at identifying and addressing those tools. I agree that the main, clearly effective tools men use to attract and keep women are:

  • Physical Fitness
  • Money
  • Power
  • Respect
  • Fear
  • Fame (note: Fame is the trump card. It supersedes, and is more powerful than all other aspects combined.)

That’s where things fall apart. The Manosphere may have been a coherent, streamlined resource at one time, but it has fallen into the 50/50 paradox.

50% of the time the people who contribute to it are astonishingly clear. They articulate how men can improve themselves every day and thus improve their lives, which always leads to more sex.

To be clear, sex is the end goal for all men, gay or straight.

The other 50% of what’s there is a sad, overtly racist, misogynistic, self-loathing, “woe is me”, “hard done by” place on the internet where all of men’s (lowercase intentional) problems are summed up by blaming it on women being irrational (read: angry that Women won’t behave the way weak men want them to) and Black Men (read: anything that can’t be blamed on women is the fault of Black Men, the bane of their existence.) Because at some point being Black in America became a huge advantage, and I never got the memo.

The Manosphere is a lot like hardcore porn, refined sugar, and extreme violence: something that should be used sparingly because it can ruin your life if you wallow in it.  Something that you should rarely expose yourself to because the effects diminish the more often it’s consumed.

 ~Watt, Sage

YusefWateef (AT) Gmail.com

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  2. Brave New Man

    I would not really call the Manosphere a “movement”, but I don’t know what to call it either, to be honest. I think it’s more of a collection of websites focused on men and men issues, if you like. You have some good resources, focused on positive stuff and very informative, but on the other hand, you also have people misinterpreting things, people taking advantage and steering into different directions. From the crowd who blames the Feminists if their pizza is cold, or the PUAs trying to sell you coaching on how to bang 10 girls in 1 month, not to mention the right-wing crew, etc. I agree that there is a lot of bad stuff in the Manosphere, but again, the same goes for any other area, take nutrition or fitness, for example. The good news is, there is also a lot of good content out there too, one just have to be selective. In the age of the Internet it can be overwhelming, but it’s up to the reader to ultimately decide what he consumes, despite the huge offer out there. I must say though, Manosphere.com is doing a great job showcasing what’s out there.

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    • YusefWateef

      For those who don’t know what you referenced when you said PUA, it means PickUp Artist. A brand of The Manosphere that focuses on seduction. I agree, its not a “movement”, but there really isn’t a better descriptor. Thanks for taking time to share your perspective.

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  3. RT

    I think it’s interesting to note in our digital age, the fame “trump card” to which you’ve referred can and often takes many shapes and forms. You’ve probably experienced some degree of that, I’m sure 😉 Really enjoyed this read, and definitely took a lot from your perspectives in the past year.

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  4. caprizchka

    OK. So what’s the word on Feminism? I think I could easily rewrite this article as a criticism of all Feminism sites, changing the pronouns, and changing “sex” to “power over men”.

    I enjoy a number of manosphere sites myself as I find celebration of masculinity to be worthwhile reading. As for the race aspects, they are unavoidable given that Feminism is the color of most anti-racism thought, that is, the inclusiveness and homogenization set forth in forcibly integrated kindergarten. Men, on the other hand, tasked with the protection of women and children, can be expected to engage in some sort of profiling, whether by race or other characteristic, in service to that protectiveness.

    In any case, despite decades of propaganda, it is apparent that the sexes are different, as are races, nationalities, belief systems, etc. Togetherness has its strengths as does separation. Today however, we’re all mashed together and I’m not at all certain that has been to everyone’s benefit. Meanwhile, each minority is allowed their separate “safe space”. I think it’s time that white men also be allowed a separate safe space where they can talk about white male issues. If black men form their own fraternal organizations to talk about black male issues, and of course every variety of woman has their exclusive club, then why not white men? It isn’t as if they are all powerful “patriarchs”. Jim Goad’s recent work on White Slavery skewers a lot of sacred cows, and Goad is not a member of “the manosphere”: http://takimag.com/article/white_slavery_denial_jim_goad/print

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    • YusefWateef

      So what’s the word on Feminism?

      I’m still compiling my thoughts on Feminism. So far I’ve found that it’s easier for me to address in tiers, how certain victories and defeats have whittled away its credibility. I just chaired a Philosophy Dinner on Feminism and i had to play the role of Feminist in the conversations because none of the women present felt comfortable identifying with being a Feminist on any level.

      As for the race aspects, they are unavoidable given that Feminism is the color of most anti-racism thought, that is, the inclusiveness and homogenization set forth in forcibly integrated kindergarten.

      I need to be sure that I clarify, I was talking about racism, not race. Can you expand on the part I quoted above?

      Men, on the other hand, tasked with the protection of women and children, can be expected to engage in some sort of profiling, whether by race or other characteristic, in service to that protectiveness.

      Reasonable. I understand how you arrived at that conclusion.I also agree with your final paragraph. Everyone should be allowed a “Safe Space”. However, I caution all marginalized people, not just Black to avoid them. Black Americans have never been safe.

      Thanks for such a well thought out comment! I am heading over to the website you linked to read that article.

      Have a great day,
      Watt

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  5. caprizchka

    No one is “safe” except for the dead. LOL.

    I was reacting to these comments of yours:

    “The Manosphere (the entire movement, not to be confused with the webpage) in general is mainly made up of angry, angry White, middle-aged men who are disproportionally unhappy with their lives to begin with. ”

    “The other 50% of what’s there is a sad, overtly racist, misogynistic, self-loathing, “woe is me”, “hard done by” place on the internet where all of men’s (lowercase intentional) problems are summed up by blaming it on women being irrational (read: angry that Women won’t behave the way weak men want them to) and Black Men (read: anything that can’t be blamed on women is the fault of Black Men, the bane of their existence.) Because at some point being Black in America became a huge advantage, and I never got the memo.”

    It sounds like you are speaking of both race and racism.

    When men subsume their competitive natures as a means of demonstrating their Feminist sympathies, this gives them a disadvantage with men who do not feel so compelled. Since fewer Black men than White men accept that they have “privilege” that needs to be subsumed, this gives Black men an advantage over the largely White Feminist men. Here’s that memo you’ve been missing.

    This difference causes many women to believe that Black men are more “masculine” than White men. In this way, White men can’t “win” with Feminism, except to largely ignore it.

    Meanwhile, more and more Black men are joining the manosphere to largely complain about Black women specifically. I think of this as a positive development given that I personally find Feminism to be more toxic than racism such that any efforts to combat Feminism will inevitably lead to less racism, in my view.

    Here is an example: https://youtu.be/SlSQAmSqSik

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  6. Mo G III

    I agree with that 50 50 assessment. Far too often it becomes a bitter grape club full of men that are just pitiful.

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