When I Pulled The Needle Out, I Was Surprised There Wasn’t More Blood!

I actually had to wait a few seconds because I was sure there would be some — bubbling to the surface. After a few seconds, all I got was a drop the size of a pinhead. Still, it justified the alcohol wipe I had opened and ready. 

So many of my friends have talked to me about TRT (Testosterone Replacement Therapy)  that I wrote out a boilerplate, standard response email. Then I ended up sending out so many repeat emails that I decided to rework it into a writing.  

I inject.  

I’ve been on TRT for nearly a year and it’s greatly improved my already stellar quality of life!  

What got me started:

I started training in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and weightlifting in college, I have a great relationship with my health and my body.  So when I started to get tired more often and less able to recover from my workouts as easily, I noticed.  I talked to my doctor and had him do my annual full body physical early.  When the results all came back, I panicked at the results.  With a terrifying calm, the Dr. said I was “normal on all accounts”.

*GASP*

I have never, ever been normal. I have always had above average results with every measurable body metric besides my body fat.  I carry a layer of fat around my muscles and I am lazy about losing it.  You’ve seen me, I have a lumberjacks body.  Not a models.

I spent at least an hour a day online researching what I could do about it.  I cross referenced everything from BroScience to reputable medical journals and they all pointed to one thing.  My testosterone was lowering as I rapidly approached maturity.

Until then, I took testosterone for granted.  I had more than enough to power my masculinity and then some.  It’s why bold, adventurous men are able to lead the lives we do.  As time goes on we calm down, become more complacent, fatter, and less aggressive. That may be OK for average men, but not for my friends, or me!

The big issue is that “normal” for Testosterone in your blood can be anywhere from 300-1,100 ng/ml.  300 means you have a horrid, sad life with no emotional or physical manifestations of manhood.  A 95-year-old, obese, diabetic, with poor decision-making skills can be counted as “normal” at 300.   My Testosterone count has been between 850-900 my entire adult life. I won’t settle for less. 

I kept reading the same thing over and over. From Ph.D. written articles to men who simply talk about it online. Testosterone is not complex, and the results are consistent. Whether you are losing it due to age or supplementing it, there are predictable results.

Specifically, I asked the Dr. for these blood work results:

-Lipid Profile,

-Complete Blood Count w/ Differential,

-Estradiol, Sensitive

-Insulin Growth Factor (IGF-1),

-Comprehensive Metabolic Panel,

-Testosterone (Free)

-Serum (Equilibrium Ultrafiltration) With Total Testosterone,

-Prostate-Specific Antigen (PSA,)

-Thyroid Profile

Here are a few links that led me to go back to the Dr. for a very specific set of blood panels to see if my suspicions were correct, that I was losing testosterone.

What I was prescribed:

http://www.steroid.com/Testosterone-Propionate.php

I was told it would take a month before the effects “kicked in”, but I felt it in 4 doses, that’s two weeks.

The biggest, most noticeable changes:

  • It’s not speed, superfluous energy, or a drugged feeling.
  • More mental acuity.
  • I sleep far better, deeper, and more productively.
  • My muscles recover after time in the gym far faster.
  • The absence of tiredness. No more lethargy!
  • More physical stamina (I train in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and No Gi Grappling. It can be rough!)
  • Slight increase in aggression (but nothing uncontrollable, if you were already a violent asshole you will you continue to be. If not, you won’t be.)
  • Increase in libido and sexual stamina.

The only aspect of TRT that surprised me was that it seriously improved my cognition. I am “sharper”, more able to seriously focus. It’s mentioned here as well:

The number one question I am asked by men I talked to about it:

“Why inject Pharmaceutical Grade Testosterone instead of a “natural”, “homeopathic”, or “over the counter” testosterone enhancer / booster?

1) Doctor prescribed pharmaceutical grade testosterone was first correctly synthesized in 1935. We know specifically and exactly what the positive and negatives are, without question. With a compound that has only been being used for a few years, we are unsure. I want stability and consistency.  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Testosterone#History

2) The FDA (Food and Drug Administration) does not inspect or approve dietary supplements.  This means that everything you buy that is sold to help you with nutrition is something that has not been approved.  I’m not saying they are good or bad.  I am saying that you are not ever going to have the same protections that you have when you buy pharmaceutical grade, prescribed, Pure Testosterone.

Take seven minutes to watch this!

When I was in high school, my cousin Ley was very health conscious and worked out a lot.  He used a product called Hot Stuff.  An effective supplement!  It was effective because they were using simple ingredients, spiked with medical grade ingredients.  That’s totally illegal and completely ethical.  However, they made a boatload of money because the *secret ingredient(s)* worked!  We were shocked, SHOCKED when stores had to stop selling it because it had undisclosed ingredients.

When I was in university, my friends and I discovered a product called Ultimate Orange.  

Rinse. Lather. Repeat.

That is pretty common in the world of supplements. 

The USADA (United States Anti-Doping Agency) had a great website on the long and harrowing list of supplements that are sold over the counter, but still cause athletes to test Positive for cheating.  Take a scroll through http://www.usada.org/substances/supplement-411/ when you are done reading all this.  

About Estrogen:

I am not on an Estrogen Blocker. My taking Testosterone has not caused my E2 to change significantly. When/If that happens I will be using Arimidex.

References:

Natural Testosterone Production

Yes, injecting T will certainly cause my natural production to slow or possibly stop.  The good news is that there are several ways to deal with if it ever becomes an issue. They have been used to reverse the process successfully.  When it’s a planned part of the therapy.  It “turns the factory back on” so to speak.

References:

You will also come across info about TRT and Cancer.  It doesn’t have a definite link. Still, I have PSA tests done.

Here is more info:

Side effects / Negatives:

  • I think I stink.  I shower twice a day, yet I smell gross when I sniff my clothes.  Interestingly enough, women have started telling me “how good I smell”, and asking “What are you wearing?”.  Not just women that are close to me socially, women that I work with, friends of friends, women within sniffing distance make it a point to tell me how good I smell.  Check this out ->  http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-28966-post-587476.html#pid587476
  • Over the past few months, I have had 3 pimples. One on my neck, one on my chest, one on my back. They may be natural, they may be from TRT. Either way, they didn’t cause any problems.

More, solidly reliable info on how to use T, and how you can combine it with other things.  I don’t use anything other than T, other men do ->  http://tnation.t-nation.com/free_online_forum/sports_training_performance_bodybuilding_trt/trt_protocol_for_injections

To be clear, this is a serious decision.  For me, the pros outweigh the manageable cons.  I would rather use this than go through the tiredness and lack of “drive” that happens when T drops too low.  I have always been around 850.  Once I hit my all time low of 500, I FELT IT.

As I said before, as a man who courts danger, travels the world, and fights, I am not easily impressed or at a loss for words.  That’s why when I say that after a few months of the TRT therapy I feel a world of difference, you should know I mean it.

Essentially, TRT is a “quality of life” issue. 

No one dies without it, and it’s very, very cheap. So the Medical Industry rarely talks about it. There is almost no money to be made on it. Its simple/cheap/effective. I did a brief questionnaire. I think it was a way for the Dr. to cover his bases. Essentially I said I was slow, lethargic, and gaining weight, but NOT suicidal or having grim thoughts. You do the same.

The Checklist that my Dr. used to see if I was eligible for TRT.  http://www.issam.ch/tools.asp

If / When you start TRT

There are several ways to take T if you decide to.  Intra-Muscular Injection is by far the most cost-effective, time effective, and stable way to do it.  It’s only odd the first two times you do it because you think it is.

#22 Gauge on the left. #23 Gauge on the right

Two ampoules of Testosterone Propionate in the middle. #22 Gauge needle on the left. #23 Gauge needle on the right. See the difference?

Your Dr. or nurse will probably offer to do your bi-weekly injections for you, for a price. Don’t do it. You are capable of doing it by yourself. Just remember, they will probably give you your first shot, in the butt, with a big needle, it will hurt. DON’T BELIEVE THAT IS HOW YOU HAVE TO DO IT! Just tell them to give you 1.25-1.5 inch, #23 gauge needles for you do it at home. A #23 is large enough to draw and inject the oil based Testosterone, but small enough to not be painful when you inject yourself. For me anyway.  Lots of other men I know only use a #23 to pull it into the syringe from the bottle, then switch to a #25 gauge needle to inject. Either way, you will give it to yourself in the thigh. No, it won’t hurt. Here is the video I used as a reference for how I do my own. Skip to 1:40.

Finally.

Like I said, all I will push is that you get your blood work done.  After that, we’ll talk about trying it.  If the numbers warrant it, I suggest trying it for 6-8 weeks.  When you have a strong T level everything else falls into place, from exercise to eating better.  Being leaner, eating better, having more stamina in the gym, and feeling better are all a part of a cycle of overall health.

I am open about the TRT with my friends and some have been upset that I would rather be proactive about my health than reactive if I had diabetes, high cholesterol, or obesity!  If I had to take insulin, I would get sympathy since I’d be fat, sad, and miserable.  Because I choose to win, I am ridiculed.  Good thing I’m used to it!

BONUS: Former Ultimate Fighting Championship contender Chael Sonnen really unpacks TRT and talks about why athletes use them! https://medium.com/the-cauldron/a-cautionary-chael-b45b0a65c73f

If you have a question I didn’t answer, let me know so I can tell you, and add it.

Remember, my goal is not for you to try using testosterone, the goal is to get you to take stock of your physical health, have a complete physical done, and then decide on a course of action that will improve your overall health.

~Watt

YusefWateef (AT) Gmail (DOT) Com

8 comments

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  2. mariostarks

    Lots of research and information here. Interesting stuff. I’m not too familiar with the topic itself and couldn’t relate entirely to the purpose of testosterone injections by needle injection, but do find interest in optimizing the body in other ways. I believe we’ve been provided with all the appropriate plants and medicine in wholistic form by way of nature to achieve the proper balance we need. I also think that as one gets older, perhaps decreased testosterone serve other purposes and that it’s not necessarily a reflection of loss in masculinity or strength, for most, as Western science would have us believe. Who knows. At the end of the day we are free to experiment with what works best to achieve the results we want. I challenge folks to find more naturopathic ways of optimizing the body, especially with the natural resources available in places like South America. I think this information would be most value, especially to those unable to access or afford this other method.

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    • YusefWateef

      Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts. I’m always a fan of diverse mindsets.

      I agree with most of what you said, but I think you are completely wrong when you say “perhaps decreased testosterone serve other purposes and that it’s not necessarily a reflection of loss in masculinity or strength, for most, as Western science would have us believe.” The quantifiable, provable truth is that Testosterone is specifically what makes Men, Men. A drop in or loss is precisely a drop in or loss of masculinity and strength. It’s the key ingredient in puberty for boys as well as what’s needed to turn women into men if they so choose.

      One point you bring up is that perhaps the lowering of Testosterone serves other issues. I believe that it does. Societally it may prove to make the playing field more equal. It balances out the amount of time a Man spends as a proverbial Alpha Male with making room for the younger, stronger men to one day take his place.

      “A King has his reign, and then he dies. That is natural order of things.” ~ Meredith Vickers, played by Charlize Theron in the movie Prometheus.

      What TRT does is give men a distinctly unfair advantage – a disruption in the natural order so to speak. It allows us more time to enjoy the intersection of our life experience with our physical ability to achieve certain goals. That’s one of the reasons why it is justifiably illegal/banned in professional sports.

      Respected Mixed Martial Artist and friend of mine Ulysses Gomez said it best in a 2012 interview with Brian Hemminger:

      “I had a conversation with my buddy about Testosterone Replacement Therapy (TRT) and I said that’s still cheating. If I’m fighting Dan Henderson and he’s 41 years old and has been wrestling for 30 some years. My advantage against him is I’m quicker and I have youth on my side so I can recover faster. His advantage is he has experience because he’s been wrestling for 30-some years. If he takes testosterone therapy, now he has the same exact levels of testosterone as I do so now he can recover faster. There’s nothing that I can take that will give me 30 years of wrestling so why should he be able to take something that makes him feel 26 years old? That’s not fair at all.”

      We each must personally decide if addressing the issue, how to address the issue, and if we want to address the issue at all is right for us. We must also remember that ignoring the issue in now way decreases its impact on our lives.

      ~Watt

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  4. Chris Young

    Cool article! Getting past the regular injections would be a challenge for me, but I’ve heard about it before and TRT looks like a direct way to maintain some of your youth. As you said Wateef, get the blood work and read up on possible issues. It’s good to have options, particularly if they are safe, cheap and accesible.

    When you talk about friends being uncomfortable about TRT, maybe some people perceive you as embracing too much the competative asshole side of life and not enough the diplomatic calm man side (not that they are really polar opposite). I can see the confusion but certainly none of us are purely one or the other. Being able to embrace the positive benefits of TRT to both competitive and diplomatic guy just strikes me as honest and straight forward. You obviously have to keep a handle on the physical and psychological factors as a personal responsibility though. Also, don’t ovelook the weirdness of many people when dealing wih fitness, good eating and sound mind. These things seem obvious, and inform you decision on TRT use, but are life skills learned over time.

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    • YusefWateef

      I’m glad that you took the time to dig into it. “Responsibility” is the key term. I have found that most people form opinions on things like TRT based on what they see from the EXTREME end of use. What they don’t know is that TRT isn’t a Steroid Cycle.

      Steroid Cycles are for Professional Athletes and Bodybuilders. Still, every now and then you have someone on the extreme end that gives an honest discourse on the Pros and Cons of going completely overboard. Check out Dorian Yates, retired former multi-year Mr. Olympia and Rich Piana, who currently uses many different steroids:

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